Regent
Life is a bore.
- Jul 16, 2019
- #1
I'm thinking of making the MC either have Natsu Dragneel's fire dragon slayer magic, the Omnitrix (alien force), Spider-Man's Spider Powers, or Alex Mercer's powers. What should I do?
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ParadoxicAbyss8
Abysmally Noneffective Utopia
- Jul 17, 2019
- #3
Regent said:
I'm thinking of making the MC either have Natsu Dragneel's fire dragon slayer magic, the Omnitrix (alien force), Spider-Man's Spider Powers, or Alex Mercer's powers. What should I do?
This depends entirely on what you want to go with. The Omnitrix gives you by far the most maneuverability in terms of story telling (Grey matter/Brainstorm/Jurry Rig/Upgrade absolutely sh*t on all Tinkers for example), none of the aliens are Maton limited, various ones can planet bust etc etc.
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Also the Omnitrix passively protects you from a whole host of bs while in alien form (soul removal/planetary transmutative tp/genetic manipulation/possession etc) it's also able to transform the user just fine even if it's somehow seperated from them and allows them to have a million + lives while casually loling at bodily death
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Query
- Jul 17, 2019
- #4
Focus on new elements or factions that we've only got a glimpse at (Sleeper, Three Blasphemies, the CUI, Vegas, Simurgh internment zone, etc).
Don't follow the stations of canon and don't root yourself in Brockton Bay.
We've seen Taylor's story play out in a thousand different ways so have your SI interact with different characters; make your fic stand out.
ParadoxicAbyss8
Abysmally Noneffective Utopia
- Jul 17, 2019
- #5
Also imo while Spidermans powers are neat unless it comes with biological webbing or your MC can whip up web shooterd/webbing that's a pretty severe downside.
I can't comment on Natsu since I know very little about that series.
Them being Blacklight WOULD be pretty interesting especially if they struggle with what their power inherently entails.
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acerak
- Jul 17, 2019
- #6
How about the Omnitrix, but modified to work with Parahumans? Randomly roll to pick 10 starting characters, and successfully scanning a cape should give a copy of their power.
If you want some internal conflict, maybe the SI has weak powers initially and wants to get stronger, but doesn't know how to use the powers well. Force them to think, and maybe even as if it's worth it to take on Lung, for example, just because he has a useful power.
ParadoxicAbyss8
Abysmally Noneffective Utopia
- Jul 17, 2019
- #7
acerak said:
How about the Omnitrix, but modified to work with Parahumans? Randomly roll to pick 10 starting characters, and successfully scanning a cape should give a copy of their power.
If you want some internal conflict, maybe the SI has weak powers initially and wants to get stronger, but doesn't know how to use the powers well. Force them to think, and maybe even as if it's worth it to take on Lung, for example, just because he has a useful power.
That.... would be weird. Since Shards don't have DNA and they only work the way they do because of the original userd mentality/personality.
Regent said:
I'm thinking of making the MC either have Natsu Dragneel's fire dragon slayer magic, the Omnitrix (alien force), Spider-Man's Spider Powers, or Alex Mercer's powers. What should I do?
Wait OP are you going to make all of those Shard based?
Mr Sheldon
I want to kill the lampreys
- Jul 17, 2019
- #8
ParadoxicAbyss8 said:
This depends entirely on what you want to go with. The Omnitrix gives you by far the most maneuverability in terms of story telling (Grey matter/Brainstorm/Jurry Rig/Upgrade absolutely sh*t on all Tinkers for example), none of the aliens are Maton limited, various ones can planet bust etc etc.
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Also the Omnitrix passively protects you from a whole host of bs while in alien form (soul removal/planetary transmutative tp/genetic manipulation/possession etc) it's also able to transform the user just fine even if it's somehow seperated from them and allows them to have a million + lives while casually loling at bodily death
This is a textbook perfect example of a power fantasy.
Not that I'm against power fantasies but they're usually inherently sh*tty when written because of how easily the protagonist breezes past all challenges.
Fruitygoo
- Jul 17, 2019
- #9
You should choose the powers based on the story you want to tell, not pick between powers and then write a story. Especially when wildly different powers like omnitrix and Spider-man are your options.
Cape omnitrix gets my vote. It needs to have big restrictions though, there's a reason it glitches so often.
How about an upgradeable suit of power armour that can copy any one power from any cape, but weaker and with power restricted. So with Glory Girl for instance you need to pick between flight, shields, strength or aura. But a Cape with loosely defined powers powers like Panacea you can only pick one biological weapon.
ParadoxicAbyss8
Abysmally Noneffective Utopia
- Jul 17, 2019
- #10
Mr Sheldon said:
This is a textbook perfect example of a power fantasy.
Not that I'm against power fantasies but they're usually inherently sh*tty when written because of how easily the protagonist breezes past all challenges.
I don't see how?
Seeing as the inherent problem of Worm is unsolvable without Alien X loling all the entities everywhere. There's also a veeeeery large number of alt Earths to unf*ck even if you manage to unf*ck canon Earth Bet.
Mr Sheldon
I want to kill the lampreys
- Jul 17, 2019
- #11
ParadoxicAbyss8 said:
I don't see how?
Seeing as the inherent problem of Worm is unsolvable with Alien X loling all the entities everywhere. There's also a veeeeery large number of alt Earths to unf*ck even if you manage to unf*ck canon Earth Bet.
There is a very simple first rule to remember when writing a Worm fanfic. Can your character beat Scion? Yes? Then it's gonna be a sh*tty power fantasy fanfic.
When you write a fanfic, you do not immediately grant your character the power to tangle with the Big Bad of the series. That is poor writing.
ParadoxicAbyss8
Abysmally Noneffective Utopia
- Jul 17, 2019
- #12
Mr Sheldon said:
There is a very simple first rule to remember when writing a Worm fanfic. Can your character beat Scion? Yes? Then it's gonna be a sh*tty power fantasy fanfic.
When you write a fanfic, you do not immediately grant your character the power to tangle with the Big Bad of the series. That is poor writing.
No it isn't?
There's tons of ways you can beat the big bad in the first chapter and go from there.
Like Cauldron suddenly directionless without their goal and Contessa's PtV having to change drastically for the outcome that shouldn't have been possible. Or the SH9 ramping up their murder hobo bs after Scion dies etc etc etc.
Mr Sheldon
I want to kill the lampreys
- Jul 17, 2019
- #13
ParadoxicAbyss8 said:
No it isn't?
There's tons of ways you can beat the big bad in the first chapter and go from there.
Like Cauldron suddenly directionless without their goal and Contessa's PtV having to change drastically for the outcome that shouldn't have been possible. Or the SH9 ramping up their murder hobo bs after Scion dies etc etc etc.
1: Then you're going to have to make your char take a backseat and focus on Cauldron.
2: If your character can beat Scion in the first chapter right off the bat then the SH9 is going to be a f*cking cakewalk. In case you haven't noticed, all the Parahumans on Earth Bet combined couldn't beat Scion without non-Shard based psychological manipulation.
- Jul 17, 2019
- #14
Stay away from Her, too many fics revolve around her already. And I get it, she's the main character, but still
I'd aim to be on the upper levels powerwise
Query
- Jul 17, 2019
- #15
ParadoxicAbyss8 said:
Seeing as the inherent problem of Worm is unsolvable without Alien X loling all the entities everywhere. There's also a veeeeery large number of alt Earths to unf*ck even if you manage to unf*ck canon Earth Bet.
The story could very well end 'unsolved.'
I like to think that an SI in Worm would be primarily concerned about surviving and getting back home.
That in itself can be an interesting premise. They aren't fighting Endbringers or manipulating canon, they could be frantically trying to obtain the resources to get as far away from canon as possible.
'Fixing' Worm does not have to be a requirement; the story merely requires some form of conflict that engages the reader.
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acerak
- Jul 17, 2019
- #16
ParadoxicAbyss8 said:
That.... would be weird. Since Shards don't have DNA and they only work the way they do because of the original userd mentality/personality.
Wait OP are you going to make all of those Shard based?
Just use authorial fiat. The Omni trio can scan the power and make an imperfect copy.
Tetradrachm
- Jul 17, 2019
- #17
Cambion said:
Stay away from Her, too many fics revolve around her already. And I get it, she's the main character, but still
I'd aim to be on the upper levels powerwise
Kill her off in the first chapter and have Queen Administrator move to some random person, that's what I'm planning on doing if i ever actually write a Worm fic 
ParadoxicAbyss8
Abysmally Noneffective Utopia
- Jul 17, 2019
- #18
Mr Sheldon said:
1: Then you're going to have to make your char take a backseat and focus on Cauldron.
2: If your character can beat Scion in the first chapter right off the bat then the SH9 is going to be a f*cking cakewalk. In case you haven't noticed, all the Parahumans on Earth Bet combined couldn't beat Scion without non-Shard based psychological manipulation.
That can be easily done since you could easily say the MC is stuck as Alien X for [arbitrary amount of time] during with Earth Bet finally gets it's sh*t together in the absence of Endbringers/Entities/Scion/SH9 while reeling at the immutable being seemingly made of the cosmos itself just existing with no one able to actually make heads or tails of the being in question or make all that much headway in terms of the weird metalic protrusion on his chest. After which time he untransforms in full view of the world outing his identity and having to deal with that mess and any other things that have popped up while the MC was arguing to be let out.
Query said:
The story could very well end 'unsolved.'
I like to think that an SI in Worm would be primarily concerned about surviving and getting back home.That in itself can be an interesting premise. They aren't fighting Endbringers or manipulating canon, they could be frantically trying to obtain the resources to get as far away from canon as possible.
'Fixing' Worm does not have to be a requirement; the story merely requires some form of conflict that engages the reader.
All stories require some conflict yes.
The problem with surviving/living is that the Omnitrix makes that pretty effortless with even a modicum of thought.
So would be getting home assuming you had one of the hyper intelligent forms.
acerak said:
Just use authorial fiat. The Omni trio can scan the power and make an imperfect copy.
Even if you did that why would the power be imperfect when it's able to do every other power just fine?
Mr Sheldon
I want to kill the lampreys
- Jul 17, 2019
- #19
ParadoxicAbyss8 said:
The problem with surviving/living is that the Omnitrix makes that pretty effortless with even a modicum of thought.
So would be getting home assuming you had one of the hyper intelligent forms.
Precisely. Your OC then turns into a Mary Sue/Gary Stu who can do whatever the hell he wants without fear of any reprisals. Very few people can write Mary Sues and still make their story enjoyable.
ParadoxicAbyss8
Abysmally Noneffective Utopia
- Jul 17, 2019
- #20
Mr Sheldon said:
Precisely. Your OC then turns into a Mary Sue/Gary Stu who can do whatever the hell he wants without fear of any reprisals. Very few people can write Mary Sues and still make their story enjoyable.
Why would they ever turn into Alien X again when they were stuck immobile only able to watch as the world repaired itself until he finally untransformed?
There a damn good reason why Ben doesn't use it all the time. It's because he still has to argue for control of the body each time he does so. The con of being unable to help others far outweighs the sheer power the form has. It's a transformation whose usefulness is based on the roll of a dice.
You only ever get one free action and that's the first time you change into it and than you have to argue to change back. You could be stuck forever there.
Acolyte
- Jul 17, 2019
- #21
You can do whatever power you want dosent really matter.
Just have fun.
ParadoxicAbyss8
Abysmally Noneffective Utopia
- Jul 17, 2019
- #22
Ratth said:
You can do whatever power you want dosent really matter.
Just have fun.
True.
Anyone knowledgeable on Fairy Tale?
I'm only vaugely aware Natsu can like.... burn stuff conceptually by the end of the series or something?
Whatever the case might be it'd be fun to see the whole magic = error thinkers get into in fics. That's always fun
Mr Sheldon
I want to kill the lampreys
- Jul 17, 2019
- #23
ParadoxicAbyss8 said:
Why would they ever turn into Alien X again when they were stuck immobile only able to watch as the world repaired itself until he finally untransformed?
There a damn good reason why Ben doesn't use it all the time. It's because he still has to argue for control of the body each time he does so. The con of being unable to help others far outweighs the sheer power the form has. It's a transformation whose usefulness is based on the roll of a dice.
You only ever get one free action and that's the first time you change into it and than you have to argue to change back. You could be stuck forever there.
1: I thought Bellicus and Serena agreed to let Ben take full control?
2: Just use Clockwork. Problems solved.
Regent
Life is a bore.
- Jul 17, 2019
- #24
ParadoxicAbyss8 said:
Also imo while Spidermans powers are neat unless it comes with biological webbing or your MC can whip up web shooterd/webbing that's a pretty severe downside.
I can't comment on Natsu since I know very little about that series.
Them being Blacklight WOULD be pretty interesting especially if they struggle with what their power inherently entails.
Blacklight would be cool because can't he like take over the world with his powers in a few days?
Drakearth
Humans are overrated. Prove me wrong.
- Jul 17, 2019
- #25
I would suggest blacklight it seems to be the Fun option.
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